for a future project should it continue up columbus avenue. but that's on the cost side. on the benefit side, we would be relieving north beach of that 9 or 10 months of construction impact that they would be seeing now for a project that they won't at least directly benefit from for many years down the road. so, it is a trade-off. i think it's a reasonable trade-off to make, that the point that i think you'll hear from many speakers -- and we've heard from the supervisor, it's just not fair to subject us, this neighborhood to that amount of disruption when the benefit is so far out and uncertain at that. and i think that's a reasonable position and a reasonable trade-off and that's why we are recommending that as our kind of backstop plan. if we're unable to make something happen off-site. * the final thing i think you'll hear from folks is kind of our final backstop, which is if for some reason going to the pagoda site doesn't work and for some reason we can't make leaving it underground work, which i don't anticipate we would have trouble doing, but we don't have that fully designed and a

that february 1st, 2013, is probably two days before you're going to start digging the trench on columbus avenue. also it seems like to me, based on our future or our past business together, that this is an item to a bees us when the real serious matter is paragraph 3, which says, if we can't do options 3 or 4, we're going to do what we had originally intended. i think that's all i had to say. >> thank you, sir. next speaker, please. >> lance carnes, steve taylor, lorenzo petroni. >> mr. carnes. good afternoon, mr. carnes. >>> yes, nice of you to hear us today, board members. i'd like to underline again about the community input and the communication to the neighborhood. i've gone to maybe five or six meetings over the last several years and i was told what was going to happen, but there was no input. and i feel like the first input opportunity that we had was after two community organizations wrote kind of stern letters and we scheduled a meeting for november 19th. and a lot of people showed up, i think it was 90 people i believe, and we were presented five options on a piece of paper like this

don't have to take this thing out through columbus avenue. we could have taken it out through the park and left the roadway open. but we had even more vocal opposition to the people who didn't want to harm a single tree or a single blade of grass. this was the compromise that was intended to mollify the public. there is nothing wrong in principle with pagoda option. it's just there are additional costs there. they have to come from somewhere. my city is not a trash dumb. i don't want to leave anything in the ground. that's a practice that should have stopped with washing the ships into the store line and the gold rush era and filling in the bay to extend the shoreline. we want people to pick up our trash, to separate our recyclables, to reuse, repurpose what we can * to practice sustainability. to set leadership by example. do whatever you have to do, but let's not leave these pieces somewhere in the ground where they're going to be someone else's problem, but someone else's problem at our expense. thank you. >> our next speaker, please. >> julie christian son, joan wood, fannie renwa

and even chinatown. no the officials want to see this extended to north beach. it would append at columbus were the abandoned pagoda theater is. it is expected to cost $1.6 billion before the north beach extension. it would of course go off. that extension into north beach will be discussed at tomorrow's municipal transit meeting. >>jacqueline: we have seen quite a bit of rainfall over the weekend. nearly 7 in.- and the san rafael even more expected with for more- in richmond. some are returning to the north but that is already pressed through. the satellite and reversing that it is missing us but it is just too dry. we did see some passes returning. but none of that hit the ground. we are expecting more rain fall tomorrow, wednesday, that system offshore. as we look towards tomorrow, the chance for north bay showers but mainly after 7:00 a.m. is when it would pick up. more rain fall on wednesday, timing it out on futurecast. >> japanese officials are inspecting traffic tunnels. >> the u.s. supreme court says it no action state courts have ruled proposition 8 -- federal courts have ruled p

want to see the line extend to north beach. the subway would go near columbus and powell street in north beach...where the abandoned pagoda theatre is. muni wants the city to consider buying the old theatre building and turning it into the north beach subway station. the subway plan is projected to cost 1.6 billion dollars - that's before the north beach extension...so the price tag would certainly go up if the line goes into north beach. the subway extention into north beach will be discussed at tomorrow's municipal transit agency meeting. >>pam: coming up the storm cleanup efforts. >>jacqueline: and latest forecast. ♪ secondhand smoke affects everyone's health. it's not just irritating. it can cause heart disease and even death. speak up about secondhand smoke. your health and the health of your family depend on it. (male announcer) live from the kron 4 news station, this is the kron 4 news.sunny skies, shattered >> it was across the roof >>pam: trees down ... a giant >> water is the enemy when >>pam: in the santa cruz mountains ... roads slip down hillsi

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